Ben Botts aka @BottsThoughts has graced us with another guest blog post — this time a great experience with the U/W Eldrazi deck (or as he calls it “Floresdrazi”).
Anyone who wants to check out Ben’s previous contributions to Five should check out:
Thanks Ben!
Third time around the block, and I still find this to be both an honor and a sweet, sweet opportunity to put myself out there.
Once again, I took up the mantle as a steward of Flores’ recent suggested deck list for Standard. And I must say I was not disappointed (How could I be?). I was, however, hesitant but only for a short distance between my trade binder full of Super Friends, U/G Polymorph, Gerry-Naya and other such variants a-waiting to find a home in those exclusive 75 sleeves.
Before I dig into an excerpt of the weekends’ events I will provide the deck list (both MD and SB):
Maindeck:
4 Everflowing Chalice
4 Spreading Seas
4 Path to Exile
4 All is Dust
2 Day of judgment
2 Mind Spring
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Gideon Jura
4 Wall of Omen
2 Sea Gate Oracle
2 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
6 Island
3 Plains
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Celestial Colonnade
3 Sejiri Refuge
4 Eldrazi Temple
2 Eye of Ugin
Sideboard:
1 Jace Beleren
2 Eslpeth, Knight-Errant
2 Day of judgment
4 Oblivion Ring
4 Kor Firewalker
2 Oust
Moving along.
Round 1: Josh, playing Boros Allies
Josh is an awesome guy. I can’t help but have a great time regardless of whether it’s a win or loss.
I won the die roll for Game 1:
Let’s just say I stabilized at 9 life, Swung once with an Ulamog that ate his only Plains when it was cast (So as to not find myself on the fetch a basic side of a PTE) – and he rips the 3rd Lightning Bolt. He pocketed 9 to my dome. And thus was the short end of game 1.
Game 2:
-1 Eye of Ugin, -1 All is Dust, +2 Day of Judgment
He took a horrendously slow hand, and I never looked back. I dropped a Wall, Spread his only Mountain, DoJ’ed the board, Dropped a Gideon, Dropped a Jace, Dropped a Ulamog (That Jace then gladly returned said Ulamog to my hand to simply be recast post combat to eat an opposing Elspeth).
Game3: I kept the sideboard intact sans the post-first game changes.
He did a few cute tricks with his Ally triggers before I resolved back-to-back DoJs then cleared his board on turn seven with a game ending All is Dust … the card is just retarded. I showed my hand full of removal, and my Jace was going up to Ultimate status on my next turn. He graciously extended a handshake.
1-0 (2-1)
Round 2: James, playing SpiritDancerWW(?)
Game 1: I won the die roll
I didn’t see much of his deck. Honestly. He misplayed countless times, and it was sort of a rag on the experience. Example – He played a T2 Spirit Dancer. Then T3 plays a Hyena Umbra on said Dancer then plays another Spirit Dancer which he showed he had in hand BEFORE he played the Umbra. I know it may seem inconsequential but that sort of thing misses a free draw. Also – I don’t think this guy was very conversational. After a number of Walls hit the table alongside my couplet of Sea Gate Oracles to clog his Red Zone attempts I ushered Kozilek out to the table w/ his good friend Ulamog. He quickly scooped to go to game 2 … in which he brought 15 cards in … 15.
-1 All is Dust, -1 Eye of Ugin, -1 Everflowing Chalice, -1 Jace TMS, -1 Kozilek
+2 Oust, +1 DoJ, +2 Elspeth
Game 2:
I Ousted a Spirit Dancer that he failed to attack w/ to break my Wall of Omens down, but instead he seemed content to play 3 Hyena Umbra’s on her so he could draw. He did play 3 Lone Missionaries on me which didn’t hurt my feelings – I just played a DoJ that ended up giving me a dirty look from him (I mean … “you killed a puppy†look). I resolved a Butcher, and he extended his hand after I revealed 2 more All is Dust and a Gideon to fog past his combat phase(s).
I inquired as to what he sided in against me, and he just darted back with a, “If you had played fairly you would’ve seen my Sideboard in the gameâ€.
I took my win without losing any sleep.
2-0 (4-1)
Round 3: CJ, playing WW (w/ Stoneforge tutoring)
CJ won the die roll
Game 1:
CJ opened with a first turn Elite Vanguard. I simply played a tapped Celestial Colonnade. His turn 2 procured a Mystic-Stone Forger fetching up a trusty machete. My turn 2 graciously gave me an Island with which gave me the option to play a 0/4 wall, or accelerate into a turn 3 Sea Gate Oracle with PTE mana left up. Knowing CJ’s deck doesn’t have the potential to run me over before turn 5 I opted to play a Chalice for 1. This ended up being the strongest play for me – I curved into a turn 4 Gideon after ripping said Fog Master off the top of my library. As always Senor Giddy Pants received the obligatory sigh of disapproval from yet another aggro player. It seems to me that Gideon’s first impression left a sour taste across the archetypal landscape. After a DoJ cleared his board of some unwanted creatures I simply set-up further classes on why Flores’ deck just gut checks the aggro match-up.
1-0 me
Knowing CJ doesn’t run a crappy sideboard in case he does run into a Control deck I knew I had sleeved up my Oblivion Rings for a reason (aside from them being FNM promo 4’ofs). I didn’t know exactly what he took out, but I knew he sided in 4 Luminarch Ascensions. Albeit I run All is Dust, but sometimes an early Oblivion Ring can be the needed punch to set-up an All is Dust w/ an Eldrazi to follow foot.
-1 All is Dust, -1 Eye of Ugin, -1 Everflowing Chalice, -1 Kozilek
+2 Oblivion Ring, +2 Elspeth
Game 2:
Sure enough. CJ slams a turn 2 Ascension. I figured he was aiming hard to get one down immediately; seeing as that he decided on a 5 card hand mulligan. Fortunately for me he missed the first counter; which allowed me to play a little loose before setting up an AID on turn 5. I dropped a turn 2 Chalice, which led to a turn 3 Chalice on 2. He was able to activate Ascension for 2 Angels which took me down to 6 before I was able to dig into a turn 7 AID; which came after he played his own O Ring on my Gideon. As is the case he struggled to recover, and Gideon swung with a +3/+3 buff from his Girlfriend Elspeth. Only took 2 swings with Senor Gideon before CJ extended his hand after pulling nothing of consequence.
3-0 (6-1)
Round 4: John L (3-0, 6-2), playing Valakut Combo
We decided to ID the round because there was only 1 other 3-0 at the time. Looking back on this decision now made me realize I should’ve just pushed for the win that round. I hadn’t had any time spent on specific match-ups, and this would’ve been a great chance to cover some ground in respect of researching the inner-workings of said deck on deck play. I must admit though, plenty of people over-look Valakut Combo as a viable deck in this format. It may not be Jund and/or Mythic by any stretch. Hell it isn’t anywhere near the price-tag of Super Friends. But when you can simply say (Or Simply walk into Mordor for that fact), “I dealt 12+ damage with a single Harrowâ€. Well then you damn well deserve a high five worthy of Flores, let alone anyone else.
3-0-1 (6-1)
Round 5: Bryan W (3-0-1), playing U/W tap-out
Bryan is a good friend of mine, and I asked him how he managed a draw, and he told me it was against another Control deck. They spent 50 minutes of attempting to resolve answers on both sides of the table, and when the time ran down they had 5 turns to figure out how to bore each other a little more.
Needless to say I respect Bryan as a very strong player, and he asked me if I would like to draw. Without fear of being bumped out of any of the top 8 slots I gladly accepted the ID. We then spent that time discussing EDH, and watching various other matches underway for Round 5. You know – Jund v Jund; those exciting matches.
3-0-2
Top 8 – Round 6
Adam M (Playing Jund – traditional build w/ Sarkhan the Mad)
I won the freaking die roll … WWMFD? Fist Pump and smile.
Game 1:
This is where the master’s course in role assignment came into effect. I never take Jund lightly. Nobody should. Until this cancer rotates out of Type 2 you should never shrug off the opportunity to play test against any of the builds (old or new).
I lead off with a turn 2 Spreading Seas on his Savage Lands (note: I have played [them] all tournament – this was the only relevant match-up where I felt it necessary to express, emphatically, when I played one).
Which gave me an Eldrazi. I then played a turn 3 Chalice for 1 leaving PTE mana open in-case he decides to play his Turn 3 Thrinax. No such luck. I met a turn 3 Blightning; which oddly enough made me happy. I didn’t want Kozilek in my hand, neither the Eye of Ugin that was sitting lifeless in my grip as well. So I shipped those two cards off, and gladly took a free shuffle courtesy my opponent’s Blightning. On my turn 4 I had a very serious decision to make: Play my Jace and leave myself naked to a BBE (albeit I could leave 1 mana up for my PTE, but I didn’t want to risk running him out there without absolute assurance of his survival). I opted for a Chalice at 2. This came as the best play looking back. I met a second Blightning which asked me kindly as to which 2 cards I would like to lose. I was staring at:
Jace, Mind Spring, DoJ
I chose to toss the DoJ and Jace. This left me with a prayer on ripping a 5th land for turn 5 – which would give me a Mindspring for 6. I mise’d the land drop, and quickly pushed Mindspring for 6.
He came out strong on his turn 5 – knowing I may have pulled some serious answers to whatever he played. He gave me a BBE which flipped a Ruinblaster; he opted to over-look the Kicker cost, and swung for 5. Which after 2 Blightnings and that left me at a precious 9 – he then chose to bolt me down to 6. So I was now within Bolt/Blightning range. BBE/Bolt~Blightning range. Or any sorts of threats that would call me dead.
I resolved a much needed DoJ w/ Path mana left after I played a post-DoJ Wall of Omens. He played a Thrinax (which met my Path), and passed the turn. I dropped Gideon and immediately rolled him up to perform guard duty. After Adam played his Sarhkan he opted for his first ability … flipping his 2nd Sarhkan. Bad times.
I quickly dropped Kozilek and a Sea Gate Oracle. Which He then asked if we could get on with game 2.
1-0 me (I am both pumped and nervous … Jund is a rough match-up for me)
-2 Jace TMS, -1 All is Dust, -1 Eye of Ugin
+2 Eslpeth, +2 DoJ
He comes out with a turn 2 Trace of Abundance … Which means I am possibly facing a turn 3 BBE, or possibly a Blightning w/ Duress. Any of those combinations would make for a bad day.
I run out a turn 2 Chalice, and pass. Fortunately he does not play any of those. Instead he drops a Prophetic Prism which then cantrip’s him into a Duress. He gladly drops this on me – with which I was able to safely show him a hand full of this:
2 Wall of Omens, 2 Eslpeth, All is Dust
He takes away 1 Elspeth (which makes me wonder if he has a Pulse for her, or if he is hoping to Strip my hand with a Blightning or two).
My turn 3 finds a freshly drawn Land which allows me to set up the board. I lay down both Walls and draw into 2 Lands (made me glad to see this … because Blightning can eat those if I am sufficient on mana)
His turn 4 gladly showed a missed land drop. He played out a pair of Putrid Leeches, and passed. I took advantage of this good fortunae and knowing his shrouded land + lens would give him the colors required sans any Spreading Seas I may draw into/play I still knew the prospect of having a land Spreaded gives your opponent additional mana math to deal w/ while restocking your hand for a probable Blightning. My turn 4 found a Spreading Seas off the top. I laid it down on his Dragonskull Summit. This drew me a 2nd Spreading Seas which then clasped safely on to his Forest. That Spreading Seas, by sheer fortunate, drew me into a Sea Gate Oracle. He managed to squeeze out a Siege-Gang Commander on his 5th turn. Which I gladly dropped my All is Dust on the following turn. Yes I lost my Spreading Seas, but he lost both his lens and Trace – along with his SGC & company. He was able to rebuild while I spent the time doing the same, and preparing myself for the worst of it. He gave me another Blightning as a present, but I was able to use my miser’s copy of Eye of Ugin in response to fetch up an Eldrazi to toss to said BBE > Blightning; which then gave me back my graveyard. Granted he was able to push me down to 2 life over the next 2-3 turns, but I stabilized with 2 back to back Gideons that both died valiantly and for a cause I was hoping wouldn’t have been in vain. I drew into my 1 copy of Jace TMS I left in, which gave me a DoJ and Elspeth with which I gladly shipped back 2 lands and proceeded to drop both, and then make a token. I was on the open-season end of a ripped Bolt, Blightning, BBE into any other haster. But He never managed to pull an out. And I grabbed the game when I resolved an Ulamog and ate his only Raging Ravine that had been played.
Sejiri Refuge = Godsend. That 1 life may seem miniscule. But when it helps you stay above the 6ft under guidelines for shaking hands and giving the GG to another player then you’ll come to respect that little uncommon with generic artwork.
4-0-2 (8-1)
Top 4: Round 7
John T, playing Mythic (Never saw the entire decklist, but it was a Conscrptn/Finest Hour mix)
Game 1: I do not procure the die roll
John T dropped a 1st turn Birds, and I am already mentally bolstering myself for a turn 2 Lotus cobra into a turn 3 Sovereigns, etc, etc. He does stick his turn 2 Lotus Cobra, which gives him a second Cobra to follow foot. On my turn 2 I opt to not play a single spell (I had 2 untapped lands, one having been my turn 1 Sejiri Refuge putting me up to 21 … w/ 2 PTE’s gripped I was ready to pray and slay). On his 3rd turn that’s when I watched as he laid down a Fetch Land (cracked it netting him 4 free mana), tapped for a 5th in the pool – tapped the birds and the 2 other lands for a grand total of 8 mana. I watched as he Dropped Finest Hour and 2 Noble Hierarchs. I started doing the math in my head.
+3 Exalted triggers for the first Combat on a Lone Lotus Cobra then receiving another set of +3 for the next combat phase. I waited for him to announce combat. I dropped a Path, one for each Lotus. Looking at that play I had just given him 8 mana on turn 4. My turn 3 showed me a Wall of Omens and a Path off the cantrip. I passed the turn. John T smiled. I figured he was pocketing a Negate for this moment. I was wrong – he went greedy, and played a BS Angel, and nothing else. He swung in with an Exalted Noble.
My turn 4 showed DoJ. I threw an obligatory Fist Pump and tapped out for the answer. He had all but spent his hand in the early turns, and never drew into any PW’s or any other severe threats (Which honestly I don’t think he was playing any, and if he were I never saw them, nor did he ever talk about it). I dodged a bullet on that one – because I hate seeing Sovereigns just sit there, and point their puffy cloudy fingers at you as they give way to smashing your face.
Game 2:
-1 Eye of Ugin, -2 All is Dust, -2 Sea Gate Oracle, -1 Chalice
+2 Oust, +2 Oblivion Ring, +2 DoJ
Turn 1: Noble. Me? Land. Turn 2: Lotus Cobra with a cracked fetch dropping a KotR. Me? Turn 2 I played a wall of Omens, which then led me to a turn 3 O Ring on his turn 3 Finest Hour after my Wall had soaked up a good chunk of damage from an Exalted and beastly KotR before allowing me to take 5 off the exalted triggers. Turn 4 gave me an Oust on his Lotus Cobra and a Chalice set for 1, and 1 land left open to bluff a PTE. I proceeded to run a clinic on my opponent. I was able to stabilize with a Jace spending his loyalty counters bouncing a Lotus Cobra and eventually after Gideon showed himself table side I was able to DoJ the table a couple more times while letting Gideon get in there. After I showed an Ulamog and Kozilek in my hands, and with John T at an unfortunate disadvantage due to multiple board wipes he extended his hand and congratulated me on the win.
Top 2: Round 8
Adam Uhler (6-1), playing Mythic (sans Conscription build – more Kibler’s list)
We chose to split 44 packs between the two of us (Because quite frankly it was 1:47 am, and he wanted to go out and hash with his friends. And my girlfriend was ready to go.)
He gave me the win so I ended the night with a 6-0-2 match record overall, and we had it written up as a 2-1 in my favor.
I personally went 5-0-2 match play with 10-1 as my games played record.
All in all I was fortunate to play another one of Flores’ lists. I always enjoy the challenge, and I won’t lie – I almost Blue 42’ed back to my Super Friends. But once I had already publicly spoken via Twitter and FB that I was going to give Mike’s deck a run for its money I couldn’t back down and chance looking like a pansy for not remembering what a tree branch feels like.
This deck is a serious reminder as to, “Who is the Beatdown?â€*
And as with his previous King Hulk list you must obey this rule first and foremost.
It is not a suggestion.
Because suggestions end up in bargain bins and yard sales.
As always here’s to hoping you stayed awake for the entire read.
I am always open for criticism and advice. I am learning to write better tournament reports/articles. So any advice on how to approach match-play breakdown and/or any statistical research to better my craft would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again, Mike Flores, and you his viewers for the time and space allotted.
v/r
Benjamin David
For Reference:
Who’s the Beatdown? by Michael Flores
The Danger of Cool Things by Chad Ellis
12 comments ↓
Mike,
As always – thanks again for this opportunity. My writing skills will improve as will my level of play. Hopefully in the future I will be writing a PTQ Top 8, or 1st place finish article for this site.
v/r
Benjamin David
BottsThoughts (Follow me on Twitter) *shameless plug
“Which I gladly dropped my All is Dust on the following turn. Yes I lost my Spreading Seas, but he lost both his lens and Trace – along with his SGC & company.”
You didn’t use All is Dust to blow up a Prophetic Prism, did you? *calls a judge*
This deck list looks a little more refined. I like the inclusion of Mind Spring over Sphinx of Lost Truths, main decked Gideon. I’m curious about the lack of Baneslayers in the sideboard though, replacing them with Elspeth. The life gain from Baneslayer seems relevant in a few match ups. Thoughts?
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@ Urikkiru:
Hey! Thanks for the comment, and insight. I, however, do not own any BS Angels – so that is why I had to refine and tweak both the MD and Sideboard from the original list given to me. If I did own they would definitely be in the SB.
🙂
I’m definitely taking Floresdrazi to the Atlanta PTQ this Saturday. Hopefully I finish in that elusive top 8 or possibly find a blue envelope in my future. If I do, I’ll definitely be writing a tournament report for fivewithflores.com. The deck is basically completely off the radar and I can’t wrap my head around that at all. I’ve won the past two FNM’s with it and finished 2nd in our Block Constructed tournament with it converted over. Everyone at my local FNM hates the deck. I love it. I’ll be playing this deck for a while.
Sorry if I’m coming off as a little dense, but you mentioned that an original list was given to you before you made changes to what your current deck as is now. Is the original list based on the deck list from the article; Yep – All is Dust or is there a separate list albeit some minor changes? If you had BSAs (MB or SB), what would the tweaks had been to the deck (MB & SB)?
Regards,
Ezer
@ troacctid:
Yes. It was a misplay on my opponents part. I didn’t catch it until 2 turns later when he complained about his lack of color fixing. I pointed out then that he threw away his lens.
I only remembered it being AiD’ed as I wrote the article. I forgot to mention the Judging Call that should’ve happened. Thanks for the “point out”. All is Dust apparently isn’t just a euphamism.
@ Ezerhorden:
Not dense at all. The exact opposite buddy. I worked off the list Flores sent me – as is found on his blog (Either of the 2 articles entailing his Floredrazi Control build). If I owned BS Angels then it would be a simple shift into my SB. No MD changes. I found Gideon to serve a vital role every time I was able to lay him down.
I have spent the last year playing w/o any BS Angels. She is a bad mama-jamma, but I’ve done well without her. As I stated earlier I would gladly sleeve her if I owned any.
@ BrendanJourney:
I agree 100%. People are sleeping on this deck. And post rotation it is still kicking hard. A Strong deck to sleeve up and play against the field. Flores gave us a great concept, and I (for one) choose to run with it until I am asked to once again play another one of his [Flores] creations.
I’ve been testing with the list from the previous post for a few days now. I’ve found a deck that gives me a really hard time. It’s called ‘Mythic Red’. see for a deck list.
Basically, it time walks you back with land destruction, plays tough efficient creatures/planeswalkers, and also tosses out Lodestone Golem to make your life more difficult. You end up so off tempo, that you just never are able to stabilize out before they burn you to death or hit you with Dread Statuary. Very tough matchup.
Siding in Negate’s seems to not be enough. Baneslayers are eating removal before they are able to stabilize your life count. Kor Firewalker ends up being too small of an effect here, as the deck can use Dread Statuary, Lodestone Golem, or a leveled/flying Kargan Dragonlord to make them rather a moot point. Perhaps more spot removal is required? Also, the deck uses All is Dust in the sideboard, adding trouble in for your planeswalkers.
Also had a problem with not enough draw power. The incremental draw of the previous list is nice for when you’re on tempo, however I think the inclusion of Mind Spring is probably a good idea. Gives you a burst type draw effect for when you’re behind.
Any thoughts on how to tweak the list for this matchup?
Great Article, and congrats on the win. It seeks to me that the 4 o-rings were a little to much for you in this tournament, i was just wondering, if you had access to Baneslayer what would it have booted out of the SB, and how would it change your sb plan?
I have been playing this deck since Flores’ 1st post and it has been nothing short of nuts! The only real trouble I have been having is against the UG turbo land deck. All is Dust makes the matchup better than other UW decks have against it, but it doent seem to be enough. Is anoyone else having this trouble? What do you think about negates cracking the sb?
@ orphan, I’ve been having the exact same problem against UG turbo land, but like you said, negates after sideboard puts the deck almost on par with UG turbo land, but not by much since they will also side in negates to mirror us. Pre SB games I’ve played against UG turbo land so far out of 9 games using the updated build from this article, every one of my matches was a loss. Post SB its still a 50/50 game, but much better than w/o the negates pre SB, since you will be sitting there waiting for the Time Warp / Avenger combo to go off sooner than our eldrazi ever seeing play even with ramps.
P. S. – Oracle of Mul Daya is da bomb
Only if there was room for duress…. i guess we are going to have to take losses to the deck that just draws cards and plays lands…
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