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	<title>Comments on: Five With Five With Flores Friday &#8211; Summoning Trap!</title>
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		<title>By: wobblesthegoose</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/10/five-with-five-with-flores-friday-summoning-trap/#comment-1364</link>
		<dc:creator>wobblesthegoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would keep track of how often the deck wins without lotus cobra on turn 2. 

Also, how often Ob is really better than Lord of Extinction. I mean, Ob is sometimes a 6/6, but you need to have another land drop. Lord is often way bigger. If you&#039;ve been blightninged, it&#039;s even more important. Plus, Lord isn&#039;t even a LEGEND, how ridiculous is that? It&#039;s one of the few creatures in the format that can&#039;t easily be blocked by Baneslayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would keep track of how often the deck wins without lotus cobra on turn 2. </p>
<p>Also, how often Ob is really better than Lord of Extinction. I mean, Ob is sometimes a 6/6, but you need to have another land drop. Lord is often way bigger. If you&#8217;ve been blightninged, it&#8217;s even more important. Plus, Lord isn&#8217;t even a LEGEND, how ridiculous is that? It&#8217;s one of the few creatures in the format that can&#8217;t easily be blocked by Baneslayer.</p>
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		<title>By: GRat</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/10/five-with-five-with-flores-friday-summoning-trap/#comment-1363</link>
		<dc:creator>GRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MichaelJ Well not exactly bad cards, just those that didn&#039;t fit :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MichaelJ Well not exactly bad cards, just those that didn&#8217;t fit :p</p>
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		<title>By: ReAnimator</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/10/five-with-five-with-flores-friday-summoning-trap/#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator>ReAnimator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah i&#039;m not saying you were copying anyone or anything, it&#039;s just one of those obvious decks, that a lot of people come to independently, for most that was 3-4 weeks ago. I know a lot of people who have had this in their gauntlet since the release, the reason you don&#039;t see it played too much is you need 16+ $15+ mythics and a bunch of fetches to play this deck plus pulses, so it is ridiculously expensive to build. Also it&#039;s jund matchup is far from amazing and jund is a heck of a lot cheaper and has more results behind it so far. 

Any comments about any of my suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah i&#8217;m not saying you were copying anyone or anything, it&#8217;s just one of those obvious decks, that a lot of people come to independently, for most that was 3-4 weeks ago. I know a lot of people who have had this in their gauntlet since the release, the reason you don&#8217;t see it played too much is you need 16+ $15+ mythics and a bunch of fetches to play this deck plus pulses, so it is ridiculously expensive to build. Also it&#8217;s jund matchup is far from amazing and jund is a heck of a lot cheaper and has more results behind it so far. </p>
<p>Any comments about any of my suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: MTGBattlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTGBattlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Five With Five With Flores Friday - Summoning Trap!...&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p>Your story has been summoned to the battlefield &#8211; Trackback from MTGBattlefield&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ReAnimator
Well I&#039;m not really abreast of what &quot;everyone&quot; made, I guess.

But I haven&#039;t really had any problems either with the Steppe Lynx aggro deck or the mono-burn deck yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ReAnimator<br />
Well I&#8217;m not really abreast of what &#8220;everyone&#8221; made, I guess.</p>
<p>But I haven&#8217;t really had any problems either with the Steppe Lynx aggro deck or the mono-burn deck yet.</p>
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		<title>By: ReAnimator</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/10/five-with-five-with-flores-friday-summoning-trap/#comment-1356</link>
		<dc:creator>ReAnimator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the deck everyone built like the day Zen dropped, though most people put in harrows, though they aren&#039;t really necessary. Mindshatters are pretty useless in the main, they are just soooo miserable vs agro decks. It&#039;s different with sludge in vamps, cause that deck has a ton of early game and defense, but this not so much. You will curse every time it is in your grip and you are playing against a boros or mono red deck. 

I would still advocate some number of terramorphic expanses in here, at the very least over the refuge. Are the one of&#039;s better then Rampaging Baloths?

Those grim discoveries make me want shriekmaw back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the deck everyone built like the day Zen dropped, though most people put in harrows, though they aren&#8217;t really necessary. Mindshatters are pretty useless in the main, they are just soooo miserable vs agro decks. It&#8217;s different with sludge in vamps, cause that deck has a ton of early game and defense, but this not so much. You will curse every time it is in your grip and you are playing against a boros or mono red deck. </p>
<p>I would still advocate some number of terramorphic expanses in here, at the very least over the refuge. Are the one of&#8217;s better then Rampaging Baloths?</p>
<p>Those grim discoveries make me want shriekmaw back!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GRat
What do you mean by baddies?</description>
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What do you mean by baddies?</p>
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		<title>By: GRat</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the vision of a GBW list I had when Zen first came out, except mine was playing baddies though :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the vision of a GBW list I had when Zen first came out, except mine was playing baddies though :p</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/10/five-with-five-with-flores-friday-summoning-trap/#comment-1353</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update -
The above deck is declared &quot;Junk Mana Ramp.&quot;
-The Management</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update -<br />
The above deck is declared &#8220;Junk Mana Ramp.&#8221;<br />
-The Management</p>
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