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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1204</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the control take on Cascade.  My only suggestion is to throw down some Path to Exile.  There&#039;s nothing more annoying than a creature with toughness greater than 4 (Baneslayer) when your only answer is a sorcery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the control take on Cascade.  My only suggestion is to throw down some Path to Exile.  There&#8217;s nothing more annoying than a creature with toughness greater than 4 (Baneslayer) when your only answer is a sorcery.</p>
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		<title>By: Marianz</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1199</link>
		<dc:creator>Marianz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great sabel stagg is the Sideboard that all decks with green must have, lots of faeries are being played right now, some fallouts maybe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great sabel stagg is the Sideboard that all decks with green must have, lots of faeries are being played right now, some fallouts maybe</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1196</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be clear, not saying this article lacked  content.  Saying that there was new content 4  days ago, but that was the last time :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be clear, not saying this article lacked  content.  Saying that there was new content 4  days ago, but that was the last time <img src='http://fivewithflores.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more content, plstks</description>
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		<title>By: MTGBattlefield</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>MTGBattlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Edison Standard PTQ Report...&lt;/strong&gt;

Your story has been summoned to the battlefield - Trackback from MTGBattlefield...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Edison Standard PTQ Report&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Your story has been summoned to the battlefield &#8211; Trackback from MTGBattlefield&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1186</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matt_sperling
Fair.</description>
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Fair.</p>
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		<title>By: goraiden</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1184</link>
		<dc:creator>goraiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you&#039;re already in Naya colors, ever consider main-decking Wooly Thoctar?  Bloodbraid Elves + Thoctar = serious beats.  And lightning bolt doesn&#039;t kill Thoctar.  You&#039;d have serious beef on the ground.

What is your plan against artifacts and enchantments?  No Qasali Pridemage in the SB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you&#8217;re already in Naya colors, ever consider main-decking Wooly Thoctar?  Bloodbraid Elves + Thoctar = serious beats.  And lightning bolt doesn&#8217;t kill Thoctar.  You&#8217;d have serious beef on the ground.</p>
<p>What is your plan against artifacts and enchantments?  No Qasali Pridemage in the SB?</p>
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		<title>By: matt_sperling</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>matt_sperling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is a second loss in round 4 and then some wins in the 2 loss bracket really a match away from top 8?  In your rock paper scissors articles you seemed to have a more nuanced understanding of a swiss format tournament, specifically the selection effects driving which decks are in which loss brackets as the tournament goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is a second loss in round 4 and then some wins in the 2 loss bracket really a match away from top 8?  In your rock paper scissors articles you seemed to have a more nuanced understanding of a swiss format tournament, specifically the selection effects driving which decks are in which loss brackets as the tournament goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: Seryph</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1179</link>
		<dc:creator>Seryph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How necessary is Captured Sunlight?  I just feel like the better Cascade cards are the ones where the effect of both the Cascade and the card itself (3/2, 4 damage to creature, 5/5) is worthwhile.  In the case of Captured Sunlight, I&#039;m just not positive devoting 4 slots to it is worth it.  Although, you do mention that against Kithkin Sunlight is &gt; Bloodbraid Elf, but I&#039;m not sure I agree even if your reasoning.  You talk about First Strike and Forge-tenders but really 4 life is about what you&#039;ll likely save even if Bloodbraid Elf is simply a chumpblock that doesn&#039;t kill anything.  If it trades, you&#039;re likely ahead more than 4 life, so I&#039;d imagine that Elf is almost always about even or better than Sunlight.

I say this because looking at the list it seems to me that something needs to be reworked since if this past weekend is anything to go by, crushing Kithkin but losing/having a hard time with Faeries, 5CC and Elves is an unplayable deck.  Many of the later should gain popularity and I&#039;d imagine Kithkin should probably lose at least some of its following as well.

I&#039;m not sure about what can be done to fix the Fae matchup, or if this is enough, but it seems to me that you must be running more sweepers going forward.  Elves can get out of hand very quickly, and with limited disruption I think sweepers main are important.  This being the case, I might consider cutting the Captured Sunlight and including a 3rd Primal Command and 3 Volcanic Fallout.  The Fallout will obviously be useful against Elves and Faeries while at the same time continuing to help against Kithkin since this deck seems quite good at blowing up Anthem effects, no matter their source.

As many have mentioned, Great Sable Stag in the sideboard can continue to shore up the Fae matchup, but is also strong against 5CC as well.  If you look at the Japanese coverage, both Shuuhei and Kazuya Mitamura had this card in their 5CC sideboards and each boarded it in against the other.  Those decks typically use cards like Plumeveil, Volcanic Fallout, and counterspells to control opposing creatures, all of which the Stag laughs at.  If this guy jumps into play quickly enough I could see him softening them up and forcing an answer such as Hallowed Burial, at which point you punish by laying Ajani or Bloodbraid or what have you.  I think in terms of uncounterable dudes, Great Sable Stag gets the nod over Spellbreaker Behemoth.

With Volcanic Fallout I&#039;d imagine this deck could do quite well against Elves by controlling out of hand hordes and simultaneously taking out engine pieces with spot removal.  Naya Charm to hopefully do whichever one is more necessary if the game goes long seems sweet.  Against Faeries I&#039;m not sure if just cramming 3 Fallout in the deck is going to do it, but it will certainly help and naturally things can get better after boards.  Perhaps some more room can be made for some other good anti-Fae stuff, but I&#039;m not totally sure what that might be.  Perhaps making room for some Sable Stags in the main and including Anathemancer in the board would do it, since he&#039;s a pretty strong drop against Faeries as well.  This would simultaneously gain ground against 5CC as Anathemancer is obviously bonkers against them.  Kithkin should remain a good matchup, so it seems to me that with a little tuning this deck could be quite strong.

I have one question:  Considering the proliferation of Kithkin (W), Elves (Gw) and Faeries (UB) is 4 Exotic Orchard a safe move for your manabase?  Perhaps its strong enough regardless, I just thought of asking.

I might consider:
-4 Sunlight
-1 Pulse
+3 Fallout
+2 Great Sable Stag

SB:
-2 Cloudthresher
-1 Naya Charm
-1 Hallowed Burial
+1 Great Sable Stag
+3 Anathemancer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How necessary is Captured Sunlight?  I just feel like the better Cascade cards are the ones where the effect of both the Cascade and the card itself (3/2, 4 damage to creature, 5/5) is worthwhile.  In the case of Captured Sunlight, I&#8217;m just not positive devoting 4 slots to it is worth it.  Although, you do mention that against Kithkin Sunlight is &gt; Bloodbraid Elf, but I&#8217;m not sure I agree even if your reasoning.  You talk about First Strike and Forge-tenders but really 4 life is about what you&#8217;ll likely save even if Bloodbraid Elf is simply a chumpblock that doesn&#8217;t kill anything.  If it trades, you&#8217;re likely ahead more than 4 life, so I&#8217;d imagine that Elf is almost always about even or better than Sunlight.</p>
<p>I say this because looking at the list it seems to me that something needs to be reworked since if this past weekend is anything to go by, crushing Kithkin but losing/having a hard time with Faeries, 5CC and Elves is an unplayable deck.  Many of the later should gain popularity and I&#8217;d imagine Kithkin should probably lose at least some of its following as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about what can be done to fix the Fae matchup, or if this is enough, but it seems to me that you must be running more sweepers going forward.  Elves can get out of hand very quickly, and with limited disruption I think sweepers main are important.  This being the case, I might consider cutting the Captured Sunlight and including a 3rd Primal Command and 3 Volcanic Fallout.  The Fallout will obviously be useful against Elves and Faeries while at the same time continuing to help against Kithkin since this deck seems quite good at blowing up Anthem effects, no matter their source.</p>
<p>As many have mentioned, Great Sable Stag in the sideboard can continue to shore up the Fae matchup, but is also strong against 5CC as well.  If you look at the Japanese coverage, both Shuuhei and Kazuya Mitamura had this card in their 5CC sideboards and each boarded it in against the other.  Those decks typically use cards like Plumeveil, Volcanic Fallout, and counterspells to control opposing creatures, all of which the Stag laughs at.  If this guy jumps into play quickly enough I could see him softening them up and forcing an answer such as Hallowed Burial, at which point you punish by laying Ajani or Bloodbraid or what have you.  I think in terms of uncounterable dudes, Great Sable Stag gets the nod over Spellbreaker Behemoth.</p>
<p>With Volcanic Fallout I&#8217;d imagine this deck could do quite well against Elves by controlling out of hand hordes and simultaneously taking out engine pieces with spot removal.  Naya Charm to hopefully do whichever one is more necessary if the game goes long seems sweet.  Against Faeries I&#8217;m not sure if just cramming 3 Fallout in the deck is going to do it, but it will certainly help and naturally things can get better after boards.  Perhaps some more room can be made for some other good anti-Fae stuff, but I&#8217;m not totally sure what that might be.  Perhaps making room for some Sable Stags in the main and including Anathemancer in the board would do it, since he&#8217;s a pretty strong drop against Faeries as well.  This would simultaneously gain ground against 5CC as Anathemancer is obviously bonkers against them.  Kithkin should remain a good matchup, so it seems to me that with a little tuning this deck could be quite strong.</p>
<p>I have one question:  Considering the proliferation of Kithkin (W), Elves (Gw) and Faeries (UB) is 4 Exotic Orchard a safe move for your manabase?  Perhaps its strong enough regardless, I just thought of asking.</p>
<p>I might consider:<br />
-4 Sunlight<br />
-1 Pulse<br />
+3 Fallout<br />
+2 Great Sable Stag</p>
<p>SB:<br />
-2 Cloudthresher<br />
-1 Naya Charm<br />
-1 Hallowed Burial<br />
+1 Great Sable Stag<br />
+3 Anathemancer</p>
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		<title>By: Xeriae1</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/07/edison-standard-ptq-report/#comment-1178</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeriae1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you underestimate RB blightning and I think you should re-look it, attempt to be faster then kithkin, if that&#039;s possible.
Also, saw you play yesterday at the PTQ, shirt ruled, and am not a fan of the control take on cascade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you underestimate RB blightning and I think you should re-look it, attempt to be faster then kithkin, if that&#8217;s possible.<br />
Also, saw you play yesterday at the PTQ, shirt ruled, and am not a fan of the control take on cascade.</p>
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