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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it make more sense to ramp to six mana on turn four instead of five?  It&#039;s the critical mass of the deck with Broodmate and Cloudthresher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense to ramp to six mana on turn four instead of five?  It&#8217;s the critical mass of the deck with Broodmate and Cloudthresher.</p>
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		<title>By: Cabrera</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice argument for Wayfinder.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeranimus Rex</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeranimus Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, the ramp is not as necessary. Farhaven Elf is a worse topdeck than Civic Wayfinder, and the 1/1 body always loses to a bear or better. (to to mention random ping shenanigans like Mogg Fanatic.) Additionally, Wayfinder cant get you a land that can come into play untapped. When I was playing ramp, normally Wayfinder would come down when I had no other land in hand, and at that point the 2/2 would have comparative advantage over the other &quot;ramp&quot; spell. 

If they both die to fallout, and both get devoured, wouldn&#039;t you want the larger of the two creatures? It makes sense to me that having a 2/2 on the board provides greater utility than a 1/1; if only because of blocking tricks. (Civic can trade with a bloodbraid elf, and other 2/2s)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, the ramp is not as necessary. Farhaven Elf is a worse topdeck than Civic Wayfinder, and the 1/1 body always loses to a bear or better. (to to mention random ping shenanigans like Mogg Fanatic.) Additionally, Wayfinder cant get you a land that can come into play untapped. When I was playing ramp, normally Wayfinder would come down when I had no other land in hand, and at that point the 2/2 would have comparative advantage over the other &#8220;ramp&#8221; spell. </p>
<p>If they both die to fallout, and both get devoured, wouldn&#8217;t you want the larger of the two creatures? It makes sense to me that having a 2/2 on the board provides greater utility than a 1/1; if only because of blocking tricks. (Civic can trade with a bloodbraid elf, and other 2/2s)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so late with a response but:
@kanagawa
Your opponent sucked for not leaving mana to pump his Figure during combat?  Regardless of anything, he shouldn&#039;t be tapping out during his first main phase for any reason there.  And my main argument for Farhaven Elf over Civic Wayfinder is that both die to Fallout and both get eaten by Caldera Hellion.  Only thing is that one ramps, the other doesn&#039;t, and since we&#039;re playing Jund RAMP, I figured it was better. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so late with a response but:<br />
@kanagawa<br />
Your opponent sucked for not leaving mana to pump his Figure during combat?  Regardless of anything, he shouldn&#8217;t be tapping out during his first main phase for any reason there.  And my main argument for Farhaven Elf over Civic Wayfinder is that both die to Fallout and both get eaten by Caldera Hellion.  Only thing is that one ramps, the other doesn&#8217;t, and since we&#8217;re playing Jund RAMP, I figured it was better. <img src='http://fivewithflores.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Mayer</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-848</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Mayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I am playing a Garruk/Fertil Ground version of Ramp versus this deck on Saturday, and I&#039;m down game one and game two after a while the board looks like:

ME (life 14): Cloudthresher (that ate a Broodmate Dragon during his last attack), Chameleon Colossus, Treetop Village, and some lands.  
OPPONENT (life 12): Broodmate Dragon (no token), Civic Wayfinder, Treetop Village, and lands.  

So it&#039;s my turn after his Broodmate swung into my Thresher and I swing with Cloudthresher and Colossus and he blocks the Thresher with Wayfinder and takes the Colossus hit.  I opt not to pump and he goes to eight.  I proceed to lay a Broodmate Dragon and ship the turn.  He then untaps (8 mana total), and casts Primal Command with modes gain seven and search.  This puts him to fifteen life, and he searches out Karrthus.  I know that I can&#039;t kill him through the Broodmate and possibly activated Treetop he has on his side, and I am dead to the Karrthus/2X Broodmate/Broodmate Token/Colossus against my Thresher and Treetop unless I can pull some shenanigans.  

On my turn I draw a Kitchen Finks and that has the ability to put me to enough life to allow me to all-in him here with everything and force him to sacrifice his Treetop chumping the Colossus, and Broodmate Dragon in front of the Cloudthresher.  I&#039;m not positive if this attack is correct in retrospective as leaving back the Cloudthresher gives me a way of trading with Karrthus when he would swing, with the drawback being he has an extra 4/4 in the air.  Still, the play I made was going all in there, and then playing Finks going to sixteen.  He is on four life after the attack (Broodmate+Token+Treetop did eleven there).  

He realizes the Karrthus play is now not lethal, and plays it, but decides to swing with only Karrthus and Broodmate Token of mine that he stole.  This puts me to five life, and he has an untapped Colossus and Broodmate Dragon on his side.  I untap for my turn and draw PRIMAL COMMAND (YAUS!).  I have an untapped Cloudthresher, untapped Finks, and Treetop with eight mana available total.  I play Command for the same modes he did (gain seven and search......for Karrthu), and pass the turn now at twelve life.  He decides to attack with everything (knowing very well what is going to happen next turn), with my Cloudthresher blocking the Karrthus, and Finks blocking the Colossus, and Broodmate Dragon and token getting in for eight in the air.  I go to four, and then six with Finks&#039; trigger.  He has no Banefire, and next I get to return the Dragons to their rightful owner. 

Game three he struggles quite a bit with his mana, and I have an excellent draw to capitalize on it (turn four Broodmate, turn 5 Cloudthresher).  

So, we had a Karrthus on Karrthus battle, which is something that you won&#039;t hear about too often very likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I am playing a Garruk/Fertil Ground version of Ramp versus this deck on Saturday, and I&#8217;m down game one and game two after a while the board looks like:</p>
<p>ME (life 14): Cloudthresher (that ate a Broodmate Dragon during his last attack), Chameleon Colossus, Treetop Village, and some lands.<br />
OPPONENT (life 12): Broodmate Dragon (no token), Civic Wayfinder, Treetop Village, and lands.  </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s my turn after his Broodmate swung into my Thresher and I swing with Cloudthresher and Colossus and he blocks the Thresher with Wayfinder and takes the Colossus hit.  I opt not to pump and he goes to eight.  I proceed to lay a Broodmate Dragon and ship the turn.  He then untaps (8 mana total), and casts Primal Command with modes gain seven and search.  This puts him to fifteen life, and he searches out Karrthus.  I know that I can&#8217;t kill him through the Broodmate and possibly activated Treetop he has on his side, and I am dead to the Karrthus/2X Broodmate/Broodmate Token/Colossus against my Thresher and Treetop unless I can pull some shenanigans.  </p>
<p>On my turn I draw a Kitchen Finks and that has the ability to put me to enough life to allow me to all-in him here with everything and force him to sacrifice his Treetop chumping the Colossus, and Broodmate Dragon in front of the Cloudthresher.  I&#8217;m not positive if this attack is correct in retrospective as leaving back the Cloudthresher gives me a way of trading with Karrthus when he would swing, with the drawback being he has an extra 4/4 in the air.  Still, the play I made was going all in there, and then playing Finks going to sixteen.  He is on four life after the attack (Broodmate+Token+Treetop did eleven there).  </p>
<p>He realizes the Karrthus play is now not lethal, and plays it, but decides to swing with only Karrthus and Broodmate Token of mine that he stole.  This puts me to five life, and he has an untapped Colossus and Broodmate Dragon on his side.  I untap for my turn and draw PRIMAL COMMAND (YAUS!).  I have an untapped Cloudthresher, untapped Finks, and Treetop with eight mana available total.  I play Command for the same modes he did (gain seven and search&#8230;&#8230;for Karrthu), and pass the turn now at twelve life.  He decides to attack with everything (knowing very well what is going to happen next turn), with my Cloudthresher blocking the Karrthus, and Finks blocking the Colossus, and Broodmate Dragon and token getting in for eight in the air.  I go to four, and then six with Finks&#8217; trigger.  He has no Banefire, and next I get to return the Dragons to their rightful owner. </p>
<p>Game three he struggles quite a bit with his mana, and I have an excellent draw to capitalize on it (turn four Broodmate, turn 5 Cloudthresher).  </p>
<p>So, we had a Karrthus on Karrthus battle, which is something that you won&#8217;t hear about too often very likely.</p>
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		<title>By: kenflipkick</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>kenflipkick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 05:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I played this deck at St. Louis Regionals because I expected lots of tokens. I didn&#039;t play against a single token deck, and all of my friends complained about being matched against tokens each round-  sad face! I had a terrible day, 2-4 Drop. I was really disappointed since i stopped playing 5 color for this deck and then 5 color would have been better in the matchups I had.

Worst memorable game, i ramp up to 5 mana with the 6th in my hand and 2 broodmate dragons, he plays his maindeck Thought Hemorrhage naming Broodmate Dragon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played this deck at St. Louis Regionals because I expected lots of tokens. I didn&#8217;t play against a single token deck, and all of my friends complained about being matched against tokens each round-  sad face! I had a terrible day, 2-4 Drop. I was really disappointed since i stopped playing 5 color for this deck and then 5 color would have been better in the matchups I had.</p>
<p>Worst memorable game, i ramp up to 5 mana with the 6th in my hand and 2 broodmate dragons, he plays his maindeck Thought Hemorrhage naming Broodmate Dragon.</p>
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		<title>By: Dochetwas</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-846</link>
		<dc:creator>Dochetwas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 05:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. I&#039;ll have to remember to pick up one of those T-shirts before PTQing in the summer. Maybe if I REALLY have the touch, I&#039;ll be able to not make squillions of errors versus Faeries. Heh.

Good report, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. I&#8217;ll have to remember to pick up one of those T-shirts before PTQing in the summer. Maybe if I REALLY have the touch, I&#8217;ll be able to not make squillions of errors versus Faeries. Heh.</p>
<p>Good report, though.</p>
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		<title>By: GerryT</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-845</link>
		<dc:creator>GerryT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 05:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:(</description>
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		<title>By: Spencer Assiff</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Assiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike.  I played your same 75, up in CT, 6-2&#039;d with the deck.  Seems good.  I beat Sanity Grinding, Boat Brew, G/W Dramatic Entrance, Dorock, Finest Hour.dec and something else that will come to me later.  I lost to classic ramp (the version that plays Garruk, Primal command and such) and the Chapin 5C control (with a bunch of charms and main deck Anathemancer).  The deck seems legit, Ryan Mulrooney fit two Malstrome pulse into the SB and said they patched up a lot of holes the deck had, mainly Runed Halo.  He posted a 4-3-1 I think, losing to Finest Hour (apparently the guy got him on turn 4 both games) and two others.  I would definately play this again.

Also, is Cabrera a joke?  I don&#039;t think he understands the deck at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike.  I played your same 75, up in CT, 6-2&#8242;d with the deck.  Seems good.  I beat Sanity Grinding, Boat Brew, G/W Dramatic Entrance, Dorock, Finest Hour.dec and something else that will come to me later.  I lost to classic ramp (the version that plays Garruk, Primal command and such) and the Chapin 5C control (with a bunch of charms and main deck Anathemancer).  The deck seems legit, Ryan Mulrooney fit two Malstrome pulse into the SB and said they patched up a lot of holes the deck had, mainly Runed Halo.  He posted a 4-3-1 I think, losing to Finest Hour (apparently the guy got him on turn 4 both games) and two others.  I would definately play this again.</p>
<p>Also, is Cabrera a joke?  I don&#8217;t think he understands the deck at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/05/story-of-my-life-terrible-tournament-report-c/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Man Dan checking in 


good write up Mike. I really like the deck and i guess if we both played a  bit better things would a went a bit better.  o well i guess there is always next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Man Dan checking in </p>
<p>good write up Mike. I really like the deck and i guess if we both played a  bit better things would a went a bit better.  o well i guess there is always next time.</p>
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