Comments on: What Would MichaelJ Do? http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/what-would-michaelj-do/ Where you learn to love what Mike Flores loves Tue, 01 May 2012 04:49:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: admin http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/what-would-michaelj-do/#comment-508 admin Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:01:10 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=442#comment-508 Hearth Kami is much more flexible than Tin-Street Hooligan. You can get in a fight and sacrifice to kill an Artifact Land, for instance. It is superb for keeping counters off a Jitte. The Hooligan you will find yourself incentivized to play badly ("Do I hold this back until he plays Jitte?") at least some of the time. The Hooligan is of course a fine little Flametongue Kavu but I think that the Kami might be better than you think. That said I am playing both Mutavault and Keldon Marauders. I am playing four main deck Sulfuric Vortex and no Molten Rain. Hearth Kami is much more flexible than Tin-Street Hooligan. You can get in a fight and sacrifice to kill an Artifact Land, for instance. It is superb for keeping counters off a Jitte. The Hooligan you will find yourself incentivized to play badly (“Do I hold this back until he plays Jitte?”) at least some of the time. The Hooligan is of course a fine little Flametongue Kavu but I think that the Kami might be better than you think. That said I am playing both Mutavault and Keldon Marauders. I am playing four main deck Sulfuric Vortex and no Molten Rain.

]]> By: DAisaka09 http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/what-would-michaelj-do/#comment-507 DAisaka09 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:52:31 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=442#comment-507 Hearth Kami is interesting but isn't tin street hooligan just better? Also i was wondering if you were still going to play mutavault? I know you mentioned before that you thought it was worthless since it didn't actually help cast any spells. Hearth Kami is interesting but isn’t tin street hooligan just better? Also i was wondering if you were still going to play mutavault? I know you mentioned before that you thought it was worthless since it didn’t actually help cast any spells.

]]> By: Koleslaw http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/what-would-michaelj-do/#comment-503 Koleslaw Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:22:12 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=442#comment-503 Hey Michael, I've been a huge fan of yours for a long time (been playing since The Dark and been reading about strategies for most of this time) I love listening to the Top8 Podcasts in my car, you and BDM crack me up. I'm playing in a PTQ on the 28th in Indianapolis and I've narrowed down my deck choices to either Mono-W or TEPS. FYI, the Mono-W build I've been playing with is the Scott Honnigman build from the Louisville PTQ (we're both from the Southern Indiana area so we've known each other a long time). I did some playtesting with Scott before that event and I was shocked at how viable Mono-W control is in the current Extended metagame. Anyways, I noticed you said to sheetylogik that you were going to talk about MWC and I was wondering if you could hit on a couple points during that post: 1) Scott ran 4 maindeck Runed Halos. I'm not sure how I feel about this choice because sometimes it seems like it's the nuts and sometimes it just sits dead in my hand. I'm considering keeping them because it completely wrecks TEPS and I suspect TEPS will be more prevalent now because of LSV. What are your thoughts on Runed Halo in this deck? 2) Speaking of LSV, in the Post-LA podcasts you said you didn't know about this matchup because you hadn't gotten to play it much. Have you gotten to play it at all yet? I've noticed that when they suspend two Lotuses on turn 1, following it up with a Chalice for 0 is pretty brutal. 3) How much Death Cloud/Aggro Loam would there have to be at a tournament for you to consider not playing MWC? The Indianapolis metagame tends to lean heavily towards aggro, so I'm hoping everyone just plays Affinity or Zoo or something. Thanks in advance, you're the best! -Koleslaw Hey Michael,

I’ve been a huge fan of yours for a long time (been playing since The Dark and been reading about strategies for most of this time) I love listening to the Top8 Podcasts in my car, you and BDM crack me up.

I’m playing in a PTQ on the 28th in Indianapolis and I’ve narrowed down my deck choices to either Mono-W or TEPS. FYI, the Mono-W build I’ve been playing with is the Scott Honnigman build from the Louisville PTQ (we’re both from the Southern Indiana area so we’ve known each other a long time). I did some playtesting with Scott before that event and I was shocked at how viable Mono-W control is in the current Extended metagame.

Anyways, I noticed you said to sheetylogik that you were going to talk about MWC and I was wondering if you could hit on a couple points during that post:

1) Scott ran 4 maindeck Runed Halos. I’m not sure how I feel about this choice because sometimes it seems like it’s the nuts and sometimes it just sits dead in my hand. I’m considering keeping them because it completely wrecks TEPS and I suspect TEPS will be more prevalent now because of LSV. What are your thoughts on Runed Halo in this deck?

2) Speaking of LSV, in the Post-LA podcasts you said you didn’t know about this matchup because you hadn’t gotten to play it much. Have you gotten to play it at all yet? I’ve noticed that when they suspend two Lotuses on turn 1, following it up with a Chalice for 0 is pretty brutal.

3) How much Death Cloud/Aggro Loam would there have to be at a tournament for you to consider not playing MWC? The Indianapolis metagame tends to lean heavily towards aggro, so I’m hoping everyone just plays Affinity or Zoo or something.

Thanks in advance, you’re the best!
-Koleslaw

]]> By: admin http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/what-would-michaelj-do/#comment-502 admin Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:07:48 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=442#comment-502 @sheetylogik Before Saturday - I promise. For what it's worth, I don't think many people will Death Cloud. @ DAisaka09 I am probably going to play Naya Burn and I like the Marauders much. I would play Hearth Kami before Blood Knight given the popularity of Affinity. Plus Hearth Kami is a fine man against Jittes, anything. I like Path to Exile in Naya Burn. I can play a turn two Sulfuric Vortex! @Bliss crater At this stage it looks like Naya Burn for the old man. Thanks for the idea, though. @sheetylogik
Before Saturday – I promise. For what it’s worth, I don’t think many people will Death Cloud.

@ DAisaka09
I am probably going to play Naya Burn and I like the Marauders much. I would play Hearth Kami before Blood Knight given the popularity of Affinity. Plus Hearth Kami is a fine man against Jittes, anything. I like Path to Exile in Naya Burn. I can play a turn two Sulfuric Vortex!

@Bliss crater
At this stage it looks like Naya Burn for the old man. Thanks for the idea, though.

]]> By: Bliss crater http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/what-would-michaelj-do/#comment-499 Bliss crater Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:43:45 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=442#comment-499 Critical Mass with noble hierarch over sakura tribe-elder. Critical Mass with noble hierarch over sakura tribe-elder.

]]> By: DAisaka09 http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/what-would-michaelj-do/#comment-496 DAisaka09 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:07:22 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=442#comment-496 Mike I was wondering what your thoughts are concerning Keldon Marauders in Naya Burn. I have been testing Naya Burn a lot since i'm pretty sure i want to take it to my next ptq and i feel like i want a different two drop. Everyone seems to say that it should be an automatic 4 of but i haven't really been all that impressed with it. It always feels like card disadvantage to me and its difficult to take advantage of any tempo that you gain from molten rain when the marauders that you played on turn two is just going to die from persist anyway. I have been trying out Blood Knight instead and it seems like it could be really good since it first strikes fae, gets by kitchen finks, and is invulnerable to both path and oblivion ring. Incidentally he's good against the deck that you just posted. Just wanted to know if you could give me a little help regarding Naya Burn. Mike I was wondering what your thoughts are concerning Keldon Marauders in Naya Burn. I have been testing Naya Burn a lot since i’m pretty sure i want to take it to my next ptq and i feel like i want a different two drop. Everyone seems to say that it should be an automatic 4 of but i haven’t really been all that impressed with it. It always feels like card disadvantage to me and its difficult to take advantage of any tempo that you gain from molten rain when the marauders that you played on turn two is just going to die from persist anyway. I have been trying out Blood Knight instead and it seems like it could be really good since it first strikes fae, gets by kitchen finks, and is invulnerable to both path and oblivion ring. Incidentally he’s good against the deck that you just posted. Just wanted to know if you could give me a little help regarding Naya Burn.

]]> By: sheetylogik http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/what-would-michaelj-do/#comment-494 sheetylogik Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:01:38 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=442#comment-494 I have my first PTQ coming up as well. I am strongly considering some form of MWC, just because I know for a fact it will be an aggro heavy field, and I also think this deck is [still] good. I have always loved your builds. I even played your MWC deck back in T2 when affinity was all the buzz. I just can't stand having a matchup that is pretty much unwinnable (Deathcloud) Which im sure some people will play. but maybe ill get paired against zoo and red all day like last year. Maybe you can share some insight on your MWC. thanks! I have my first PTQ coming up as well. I am strongly considering some form of MWC, just because I know for a fact it will be an aggro heavy field, and I also think this deck is [still] good. I have always loved your builds. I even played your MWC deck back in T2 when affinity was all the buzz. I just can’t stand having a matchup that is pretty much unwinnable (Deathcloud) Which im sure some people will play. but maybe ill get paired against zoo and red all day like last year.

Maybe you can share some insight on your MWC. thanks!

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