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	<title>Comments on: The Secret Stage III</title>
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		<title>By: starwarer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how proud of myself I should be for figuring out what you had meant by &quot;Secret Phase III&quot; when you simply mentioned it and didn&#039;t explain.

Either way, it feels good to be shown I was correct.

As far as actually being Phase III:  if Faeries must do everything in its power to stop Sulfuric Vortex from sticking, doesn&#039;t that at least validate the position?  While having a Phase III strategy is usually independent of the opponent, isn&#039;t it also possible that you can have a Phase III strategy vs. only certain opponents?

Or are we instead talking actually talking about a type of Phase Suppression?  A la Boil vs. heavy-Islands.  Instead of suppressing the traditionally viewed resources (land or cards) of the opponent&#039;s game plan, perhaps we need to view Vortex as LIFE suppression.  We are attacking one of the resources (life-gain) that the opponent&#039;s game plan was based on.  In any type of Phase Suppression, the POINT of it is to make your opponent have to devote their resources and attention to overcome your suppression while you can continue about the rest of YOUR OWN game plan.  If the opponent is trying to overcome your Vortex, then you are free to knock him/her around.  I think we can agree that Vortex shuts off the Phase advantage that Martyr normally enjoys in the matchup.

Or maybe it is simply anti-Phase Suppression.  Life-gain may itself be Phase suppression, by interfering with the effectiveness of the opponent&#039;s strategy (&#039;burn thy face&#039;).


Any way it is examined, Sulfuric Vortex is simply (in certain matchups) a strategic trump that can significantly alter the flow of the game/match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how proud of myself I should be for figuring out what you had meant by &#8220;Secret Phase III&#8221; when you simply mentioned it and didn&#8217;t explain.</p>
<p>Either way, it feels good to be shown I was correct.</p>
<p>As far as actually being Phase III:  if Faeries must do everything in its power to stop Sulfuric Vortex from sticking, doesn&#8217;t that at least validate the position?  While having a Phase III strategy is usually independent of the opponent, isn&#8217;t it also possible that you can have a Phase III strategy vs. only certain opponents?</p>
<p>Or are we instead talking actually talking about a type of Phase Suppression?  A la Boil vs. heavy-Islands.  Instead of suppressing the traditionally viewed resources (land or cards) of the opponent&#8217;s game plan, perhaps we need to view Vortex as LIFE suppression.  We are attacking one of the resources (life-gain) that the opponent&#8217;s game plan was based on.  In any type of Phase Suppression, the POINT of it is to make your opponent have to devote their resources and attention to overcome your suppression while you can continue about the rest of YOUR OWN game plan.  If the opponent is trying to overcome your Vortex, then you are free to knock him/her around.  I think we can agree that Vortex shuts off the Phase advantage that Martyr normally enjoys in the matchup.</p>
<p>Or maybe it is simply anti-Phase Suppression.  Life-gain may itself be Phase suppression, by interfering with the effectiveness of the opponent&#8217;s strategy (&#8216;burn thy face&#8217;).</p>
<p>Any way it is examined, Sulfuric Vortex is simply (in certain matchups) a strategic trump that can significantly alter the flow of the game/match.</p>
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		<title>By: jonnyb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posts like these keep me reading, Mike. From when I first read Who&#039;s the Beatdown I&#039;ve considered you to Magic what Doyle Brunson is for poker. Keep the good articles coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posts like these keep me reading, Mike. From when I first read Who&#8217;s the Beatdown I&#8217;ve considered you to Magic what Doyle Brunson is for poker. Keep the good articles coming!</p>
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		<title>By: KZipple</title>
		<link>http://fivewithflores.com/2009/02/the-secret-stage-iii/#comment-530</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think its a stretch at all.  It might not the *strongest* Stage III, but it directly invalidates lifegain, and effectively invalidates creature removal as a method of staying alive, unless they follow up with a big threat.  Seems awesome.
GL Qing, obv.  Have fun in Cleveland, even if I&#039;m hoping Detroit wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think its a stretch at all.  It might not the *strongest* Stage III, but it directly invalidates lifegain, and effectively invalidates creature removal as a method of staying alive, unless they follow up with a big threat.  Seems awesome.<br />
GL Qing, obv.  Have fun in Cleveland, even if I&#8217;m hoping Detroit wins.</p>
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