Comments on: The Hidden Value of MTGO Ringers http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/ Where you learn to love what Mike Flores loves Tue, 01 May 2012 04:49:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Five With Flores » The Physical Reality of Magical Spells http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-510 Five With Flores » The Physical Reality of Magical Spells Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:54:26 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-510 [...] like GerryT chided me a few weeks ago: It’s all about having sufficent fire to try to win each and every [...] [...] like GerryT chided me a few weeks ago: It’s all about having sufficent fire to try to win each and every [...]

]]> By: Five With Flores » Five by Flores http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-417 Five With Flores » Five by Flores Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:32:12 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-417 [...] I think I mentioned it roughly DI times in this article, you should read GerryT’s comment in The Hidden Value of MTGO Ringers. Like right [...] [...] I think I mentioned it roughly DI times in this article, you should read GerryT’s comment in The Hidden Value of MTGO Ringers. Like right [...]

]]> By: Five With Flores » Conflux - Knight of the Reliquary http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-412 Five With Flores » Conflux - Knight of the Reliquary Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:29:02 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-412 [...] While you’re here, in case you haven’t read the previous post The Hidden Value of MTGO Ringers, check it out. The comments section is one of the most awesomest ones in the short history of this [...] [...] While you’re here, in case you haven’t read the previous post The Hidden Value of MTGO Ringers, check it out. The comments section is one of the most awesomest ones in the short history of this [...]

]]> By: wrongwaygoback http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-411 wrongwaygoback Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:35:58 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-411 When you mulligan, how long do you shuffle - and do you spend less time shuffling with each mull? When you mulligan, how long do you shuffle – and do you spend less time shuffling with each mull?

]]> By: admin http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-410 admin Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:22:41 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-410 First of all thanks everyone for your comments. Some of these are real gold. @GerryT Pretty sure the first sentence of your response is just better than any article in terms of being useful long-term than anything that has been written this year. @mason You are right of course. MTGO players just have more tournament repetitions (and can probably get to 10,000 hours of tournament play more quickly) than IRL players. @tongonation Sounds like you deserved it. First of all thanks everyone for your comments. Some of these are real gold.

@GerryT
Pretty sure the first sentence of your response is just better than any article in terms of being useful long-term than anything that has been written this year.

@mason
You are right of course. MTGO players just have more tournament repetitions (and can probably get to 10,000 hours of tournament play more quickly) than IRL players.

@tongonation
Sounds like you deserved it.

]]> By: tongonation http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-409 tongonation Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:19:58 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-409 In sanctioned tournaments, my opponent has mulled to 4 against me on four separate occasions, and I have lost each time. In sanctioned tournaments, my opponent has mulled to 4 against me on four separate occasions, and I have lost each time.

]]> By: mason http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-408 mason Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:16:31 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-408 It doesn't seem to be so much about 'MTGO ringers' - that statement mixes up correlation with causation as the more competitive players tend to spend more time on MTGO. "You don’t mulligan in these situations (I don’t anyway) in order to avoid feeling badly, I guess." That is a great way to put it, and really goes to the source, which is that we need to disassociate feelings from the actual math. Sticking only to the potential win %, you're more likely to be 'unwilling to keep an unwinnable 5' as Asher said. So I guess next time you're staring at miserable 5-card hand, don't take it personally. It doesn’t seem to be so much about ‘MTGO ringers’ – that statement mixes up correlation with causation as the more competitive players tend to spend more time on MTGO.

“You don’t mulligan in these situations (I don’t anyway) in order to avoid feeling badly, I guess.” That is a great way to put it, and really goes to the source, which is that we need to disassociate feelings from the actual math. Sticking only to the potential win %, you’re more likely to be ‘unwilling to keep an unwinnable 5′ as Asher said. So I guess next time you’re staring at miserable 5-card hand, don’t take it personally.

]]> By: ReAnimator http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-407 ReAnimator Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:04:44 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-407 Percentage wise I've won more mulls to 4 than i have 5's i don't know why but maybe there is "some mystical hoo-haa" about them. Percentage wise I’ve won more mulls to 4 than i have 5′s i don’t know why but maybe there is “some mystical hoo-haa” about them.

]]> By: How to Improve Your Mulligan Decisions With Magic Online http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-406 How to Improve Your Mulligan Decisions With Magic Online Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:38:29 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-406 [...] Flores has some useful thoughts about improving your mulligan decisions by playing in a lot of MTGO (Magic The Gathering Online) [...] [...] Flores has some useful thoughts about improving your mulligan decisions by playing in a lot of MTGO (Magic The Gathering Online) [...]

]]> By: KZipple http://fivewithflores.com/2009/01/the-hidden-value-of-mtgo-ringers/#comment-404 KZipple Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:55:54 +0000 http://fivewithflores.com/?p=383#comment-404 Michael Jacob makes for too many MichaelJ's on this board. Michael Jacob makes for too many MichaelJ’s on this board.

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