Comments on: You Make the Play, You Make the Play

By: Five With Flores » B/W Tokens Part Two

Five With Flores » B/W Tokens Part Two — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:01:57 +0000

[...] think Jund Mana Ramp is the control in this matchup (consider Asher ManningBot’s comment from You Make the Play, You Make the Play), which is as dodgy as it is unexpected (Game One is not exactly the most stable pillar of [...]

By: Alfrebaut

Alfrebaut — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:59:34 +0000

I haven’t commented before because I previously was too lazy to make a comment, but I would have kept the Flame Javelin, though I’m now unconvinced of how right it was. My mind went instantly to both getting a 2-for-1 by casting a topdecked Demigod and to making my opponent waste his mana(and therefore time) on pumping up his Figure. You’d have to topdeck a land to even cast Demigod, and even then, it’s likely you’d lose in a race against a player with a Figure AND four cards in his hand. Now I’m not sure either way…

By: Gifts Ungiven

Gifts Ungiven — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:17:05 +0000

Typo:

“When you choose to keep Demigod, you have immediate….”

Should read:

“When you choose to keep JAVELIN, you have immediate…”

By: Gifts Ungiven

Gifts Ungiven — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:15:32 +0000

I think this quote is right in intent, but wrong in decision:

“The Demigod of Revenge camp, which included the newly wedded BK, were much more strategic: “We’re probably losing… now how do we find a way to win, however improbable?””

Pitching Demigod is significantly more likely to lead to a win than keeping it. When you choose to keep Demigod, you have immediate action to prevent impending death via threat-on-the-field or topdecked threat from your opponent (via Javelin, which kills everything), and you get a swingy turn from hell if you subsequently topdeck a Demigod. My skepticism about the play definitely comes from the fact that you’re keeping highly killable action that may pay off if you fairly immediately draw into a second Demigod, whereas if you kept the Javelin, you can buy a lot of extra turns in which to see another Demigod and start swinging with two in the air.

Or, more briefly, I think keeping the Javelin /is/ the “way to win, however improbable” play. In contrast, keeping the Demigod is the triple gamble — I hope I get a non-CIPT land, I hope no removal kills my Demigod, and I hope I don’t get killed while I’m waiting point 1.